Post by Dmitry Molchanov on Mar 24, 2017 19:40:27 GMT
Considering that most of my activity is currently going to the ModernNations roleplay, rather than here, I don't see the need to be a part of the Warzone as much anymore. If anything, knowing that I may have something to do here as well just makes it all a little more stressful on my part. Considering that this RP has crashed and burned 3 times in total, I think that it's safer to just give up on it and move on. It was fun while it lasted in my opinion, and has given me more insight into how the political and military world work, far more than I would've been able to do otherwise. That being said, that doesn't mean that the group itself should disband, as my word ain't law. If you guys want to continue trying to save it, feel free. I, personally, am going to stick with ModernNations, given that it hits more of that realism vibe that I really like. If anyone wants to join, there's a ton of nations that are available to play as, including, but not limited to: South Korea Finland Kazakhstan Egypt Be warned though, this RP will take all of your writing skills, as well as a significant amount of math and organizational skills.
"Мы здесь, чтобы сохранить мир, не начинать войну. [We are here to keep the peace, not to start a war.]" - Dmitry Molchanov, President and former Prime Minister of the Russian Federation
Post by Archibald Stanford on Mar 25, 2017 8:40:37 GMT
The reason that it's crashed and burned is because there's no internal structure. Modern Nations has mechanics involved that allow it to be able to include economics, training and other functions which this RP lacks. It convinced me all the more that it would be much wiser to "torch" the RP, as Nag put it, and put together a genuine structure and set of mechanics to make this work. The current situation is that we have to discuss each individual mechanic and gain a consensus before we can implement it. I don't think it's too bad a method, but I think that trying to please everyone will mean that it will be bogged down with those who dissent and those who agree.
I believe that the duty of reconstructing the RP should be made in an environment where one person has final authority, while those who wish to give their input can advise or provide their thoughts on what's being created.
Post by Dmitry Molchanov on Mar 25, 2017 20:39:52 GMT
Considering that I don't necessarily have nearly as much availability here anymore because of Modern Nations, other writing, and IRL stuff, I don't think I'd be able to restructure the RP, and I'm not sure whether or not a lot of others are available as of now. Personally, I vote for Retro to restructure the RP, mainly because he seems more readily available than a lot of us. That being said, I could attempt to try and help set up systems for economics, weapons trade/production, and how some things could get set up, but I don't have the availability unfortunately.
"Мы здесь, чтобы сохранить мир, не начинать войну. [We are here to keep the peace, not to start a war.]" - Dmitry Molchanov, President and former Prime Minister of the Russian Federation
Post by Abdul-Al Rashid on Mar 26, 2017 0:36:25 GMT
Well, due to Modern Nations, my time here is quite limited, however I'll still support the suggestion to tear this place down and rebuild it.
It's kinda like a house here, if you don't have a good foundation it is sure that it will collapse, It seems like we're living i a house without a good foundation and while we're living in it, we build the foundation.
I would suggest however that in the new basic foundation, (in economic form) that this will happen:
All factions are permitted 20 Billion USD and the GLA will receive 1 Billion USD. If a member joins a faction, the faction leader must decide how much funding the guy or girl has. The money will be used by buying equipment or fixing equipment or recruiting personnel. All members will have a starting army of 20,000 personnel, or vehicle, or basically anything that is ground based. on air however, each member will receive 100 aerial vehicles (of course the GLA must ask permission from their Warlord first), fixed wing and helicopters. Heavy aerial vehicles like the C-130 transport and the Spectre gunship isn't allowed.
BASES (All base related stuff (upgrading, relocation, etc), A member needs to ask the faction leader first.) Army Bases
Army Bases are vital for refueling, reloading, and repairing your forces. Bases can also be assigned to production, which means it can produce forces, this will cost 100k. Only the faction leader can choose where these bases are set up. You can create additional bases, by requesting the leader on one. However, any member can create FoBs. A FoB will cost around $500k. (It's for balancing reasons) Starting Army Bases:
China: 7 USA: 5 Russia: 7 GLA: 4 (GLA and China will get a discount, 50% off of the original price in creating bases)
An Army base will cost around $500,000,000
Aerial bases can dictated whether or not your planes can go there. An aerial base can support bigger aircraft such as transports, and bombers. All aerial bases can house fighters, or helicopters. As always Faction leaders can only choose where these bases are found. A member can create Landing strips, which can house 30 aircraft, fighters or helicopters. Landing Strips cost around $100,000 for a start. Landing strips can be upgraded to a normal Aerial base, this will cost $ 250,500,000.
Starting Aerial Bases:
China: 5 USA: 9 Russia: 6 GLA: 2
An aerial base will cost: $250,000,000.
Navy on the other hand depends on how many naval bases your faction starts:
China: 5 USA: 8 Russia: 8 GLA: 1 or 0
These Naval bases are vital to your navy. The starting numbers of your navy can be known by simply multiplying 10 by the number of naval bases. You can choose where these Naval bases are set up, however it is recommended not to put many of them close together.
A naval vessel's cost is to be decided.
The price for a naval/aerial/land Base is to be decided but for now here's a starting price: $500,000,000
I request for a board or sub forum in one of the main boards that will dictate the Economic changes or the purchasing, in order for this to be true.
Post by David Van Rotterdam on Apr 16, 2017 11:40:04 GMT
So it is a little quite around here. I am not sure if people are perhaps working on the background on this process. Despite that I were quite busy the last few weeks, my thoughts remained with the RP.
The suggestion about an economic system is a good one. But how deep are we going to make it? The same goes for military and civilizations in common. The deeper this goes, the more body it gets,.. the more input it requires from participants. This is something that worries me. It might be an understatement, but one has more time than another player, and the knowledge of the persons in common are obviously different than from a fellow player.
This brings up quite some problems: with the fact that we see players come and go, it will be most safe to say that there will be not enough ‘hands’ to carry out all work. First question that comes in my mind is: Can we design a system, connected to the server clock, what automatically continue with the calculations and keep up the bookkeeping?
IF YES: Then we can create a more decent system to play. Even for factions who are thin in numbers in active players.
IF NO: I would suggest to drop it.
Own opinion: I wish to see a more suitable system, so we could sanction each other or trade block or stuff like that to give the RP more body. Agreements between factions can be found on more decent criteria instead of: ‘muh trade, muh moniez and muh army’
I hope we can continue the RP in its current way. There is enough crap going on from left to right, to make each other’s characters live miserable
Balance and battles.
Yes, armies have there strong sides and weaknesses. But the wish to roleplay everything, I have to ask: How does that work? Is there a way about how the paperwork should be done? Else I foresee problems with ‘muh paperwork beats your paperwork’. We have been there, done that, and yeah, every player should take battles with a decent spoon of salt (Dutch way of speaking), instead of ‘muh stronk’. Taking loses and giving up area’s is a normal thing, but when it comes to that, we all hate it. Some can accept it, others not. Endless discussions will occur and stall this RP once more.
Therefore I suggest the, how wrong it sounds (I agree to that), to use the dice systems. Yes it is wrong, yes it is shit, but it solves the bigger problem as written as above.
Come to think of: the entire GP system needs to be drastically increased in abilities and choices. Donny Trump has proven that to me with his Tomahawk bombardment on the Syrian airbase. The current GP choices are just too little to pick from. Even random airstrikes should be a choice IMO. (Nearly) every faction can launch missiles, call in airstrikes and other common ‘General Abilities’, is it not? Can be interesting and perhaps another thread needs to be made on the mainpage of the RP, for simple strikes. Perhaps North Korea IRL will receive some…
I struggle to lead the SAP. For the fact that there is little to none lore, only a partnership with Russia, and that’s about it. Making everything up without some things from the past, yeah I admit, I find that hard. Therefore I am thinking to:
SWITCH FACTIONS: Perhaps a different player doesn’t want to lead one of the 5 main factions. If so, I would be happy to fill in that spot.
LEAD MULTIPLE SMALLER FACTIONS: Perhaps it is an idea that if I cannot switch to one of the main 5, I remain leading the SAP. Also the MEC and the Bangladore Pact. Each with their own goals, own allies and own enemies. Perhaps that gives me enough joy to put energy in it. With all due respect but the MEC has most likely more body to play with then the SAP considering the Lore. But there is this little rule about multiple factions…
Personality: Leadership and a troublemaker, are the key ingredient of this person. This is why he will be usefull in the Global Liberation Army.
Firuzabadi was born on 3 February 1983 in Mashhad, Iran and started his education in that city. He then graduated from Mashhad University of Medical Sciences with a degree in veterinary medicine. Despite having a medical degree, the young man decided to join the army in 2006. With this decision, his interests moved from medicines and field hospitals, towards military strategy and armoured assaults. Promoted to Second Lieutenant of the Iranian Armour Division in 2015. Under his command he renewed several division to make them deploy faster and quicker. Also he encountered his first personal feelings outside the Iranian borders.
2016. His desires grew far more quicker then foreseen. Secretly he starts to sneak out large amount of Iranian army funds. Smaller cells of the feared GLA organisation receives these amounts.
2017. Unsure is whom the biggest benefiter is from the missing Iranian funds: Mohmar ‘Deathstrike’ or Abdul bin Yusuuf. Kazakhstani Warlord Deathstrike currently is busy in Kyrgyztan and Tajikistan obtaining more power for his cause. Meanwhile Yusuuf’s Brotherhood of the White Falcon organizes several terrorist strikes in and around Dubai.
2018. Iranian investigators stumbled upon the missing funds. A commission under supervision of Firuzabadi is ordered to investigate further this case. With his new position as the supervisor, Firuzabadi starts exporting light armoured vehicles to Yusuuf. This increases the unrests in the Dubai area, attracting the attention of the United States.
2019. The United States Army Brigade Combat Team finally tracks down Yusuufs regional base, forcing him to retreat in that area. Yusuuf seeks regufe in Kazakhstan and pledge allegiance to the GLA. Strengthening from upon here, Yusuuf hopes to threatening the US interests in this region. Meanwhile the last Iranian shipment of weapons were discovered by the US, causing an international conflict. Iran denies and claims to be innocent. Meanwhile Firuzabadi announces that his investigation nearly reaches the end, to hide his participation in this event.
Together with this, several GLA cells organized terror strikes in the People’s Republic of China. The Three Gorgers Dam Strike, the occupation of the Hong Kong Convention Center, the Wan Chao district fightings and last but not least: the 5 kilton Nuclear weapon detonation during the 70th anniversary parade in Beijing. (Just back ground information)
2020. Firuzabadi accuses Major El Hamdouie of treason against the Iranian Islamic State. El Hamdouie is publicly executed, and Firuzabadi was promoted to Major as a replacement. The war funding remained untouched for the next 2 years.
Within this same year, the Chinese forces invades Aldastan. Massive fights break out between the GLA and the PRC, with the Red Army as a victor at the end.
2021. Unable to help fund the GLA properly, Firuzabadi attempts to make several contacts with local field agents in Kazakhstan. Anti-American and Chinese propaganda indirectly was provided by Firuzabadi, still gaining in favours from the GLA higher (regional) command. Firuzabadi provides the GLA commanders very vital information about the US Incirlik Air Force Base in Turkey.
2022. While the war continues in Kazakhstan, a successful strike against Incirlik Base weakened the US forces. The US answered with a special forces strike in Vozrozhdeniya, Kazakhstan against GLA-controlled ex-Soviet bio-chemical laboratories and compounds.
The Iranian Government trying to obtain some good will amongst the international communities, ordered a strike against the Republic of Azerbaijan capital city Baku and the surrounding areas. Firuzabadi as the commander in field successfully conquers the city within days, finding evidence to several smaller local terrorist cells, some pro-Russian others pro-GLA. Firuzabadi was promoted to Lieutenant Colonel. Iran started to investigate if the Intel was correct about the accusations of GLA supporters in this area. Russia got nervous because of the Iranian movements, suggesting that Washington originally was behind all of this.
2023. Slowly Firuzabadi starts providing the GLA in Kazakhstan once again weapons and fundings. Still, his forces, under Iranian flagm occupied Eastern Azerbaijan.
2024. Sulaymaan gainst the respect of Mohmar Deathstrike by proving the GLA with a steady flow of income and weapons through international arms deals. Western intelligence agencies manage to trace some of the materiel back to Russia. Because of this, Firuzabadi got ordered by the GLA to retreat from the Republic of Azerbaijan, to save the connections with Russian arms dealers. Firuzabadi camouflaged this by declaring that the specific region was safe and Iranian presents no longer was required. Russia greatly appreciate the retreat of Iran and regain connections with Azerbaijan, making sure to convert it once more under Moscow’s control.
2025. Iran lost a small cargo ship in the Caspian Sea, containing arms and several armoured vehicles. The weapons itself reached Kazakhstani ground however, and the ship was never to be seen again. Iran counted it as lost material, never knew this secret betrayal of Firuzabadi.
The weapons itself was a desired welcome for the heavily suffering GLA forces. The reinforcements started to push back the Chinese and American defenders, and conquered Baikonur Cosmodrome. Several Soyuz missiles were prepared with toxin-tipped warheads. The first launch brought Toxin Warhead by Soyuz Missile to Tel Aviv, Israel, killing thousands.
GLA forces also toppled the pro-American regime in Baghdad, prompting the US to commence their third attack on Iraq in order to restore strategic control around the Persian Gulf. Iran and Saudi Arabia are heavily involved in the fight via proxies. Because of this, Firuzabadi got an opportunity to sneak out several army battalions towards Kazakhstan instead of Iraq. Firuzabadi later joined his men in Kazakhstan, and made several important GLA contacts first handed.
2026. The GLA launched another Soyuz Missile from Baikonur Cosmodrome to the US naval base in Narvik Normay. Meanwhile, Firuzabadi was working together with local GLA commanders fighting of the Russians who tried to attempt counter-attack on the Baikonur Cosmodrome. Moscow ordered this to regain control of this area, and also as a token of gesture to disassociates itself from the GLA. American and Norwegian forces successfully puts an end to the GLA occupation by dropping a GBU-43/B onto the launch pad. Firuzabadi, while being at the other side of this location, had troubles reaching his beloved Iran back in time.
While the US forces detected Firuzabadi, and therefore suspects Iran of terrorist activity. The Intel about a certain Dr.Thrax and his super Anthrax virus did the Americans forced to increase their capabilities in the Middle East. Several Intel reports suggested that Dr.Thrax had bases in Iran, and this in combination with the increased violence in the Persian Gulf made the Americans decide to invade Iran. Together with Saudi forces, who launched coordinated attacks against the desalination facilities that supply the Arabian peninsula with drinkable water. The result is an unprecedented humanitarian disaster which plunges the entire Middle East into total anarchy.
2027. Saudi Arabia takes over the control of Iran from the United States. The US finally defeats Deathstrikes forces in the regions, but failed to capture the GLA leader. The GLA in common, loses major territories in the Middle East, and decides/forced to move towards Europe, hungry for more funding. With the lack of capacity and funding’s elsewhere, the US starts to thin out their numbers in Europe. Firuzabadi, a wanted man for crimes and treason against the Islamic Republic of Iran, pledge allegiance to the GLA. Together with him, a few divisions of the former Iranian Armour Division and enough equipment to maintain them, he fled from Eastern Middle East. He caught up with Yusuuf in Eqypt.
While Firuzabadi hatred against the Saudi’s remained for interfering and invading Iran, his hatred towards the United States cooled down a bit when the GLA hijacked successfully an American Particle Cannon Uplink and destroyed the USS Ronald Reagan, a CVN-76 class aircraft carrier. This caused the heaviest local environment disaster as the leaked radiation materials infects large areas in and around Crete. Much of the Mediterranean Fleet is also destroyed.
2028. The US completely retreats from Europe in common, leaving the European people at the mercy of the GLA and Chinese forces. Firuzabadi meanwhile increased his numbers by GLA loyalists from the Middle East and Eqypte in common. His current base of operations is somewhere near Cairo, overseeing also GLA transportations towards Europe.
Furthermore, Firuzabadi starts working on a novel of his own, comparable as a piece of pro-GLA propaganda. Using selective religious sources to give it more ‘body’, it’s purpose might already be clear: inspiring new potential warriors for the GLA cause.
2029. Firuzabadi mobilizes his forces to protect the incoming retreating GLA forces from Europe after the Chinese victory. While the Middle East still remains in anarchy, and Saudi Arabia throws itself to the front as the leading country, GLA high command decided to move deeper into Africa. The upcoming years Firuzabadi’s forces encountered small skirmishes around Egypte.
2030. Holding out in Eqypt and continue to be in control, Firuzabadi manage to contact Russian Arms Dealers for direct trading connections. With the ports of Eqypt and the very short route to the Black Sea, years of weapons transportations occurred.
Combined with this, his forces successfully raids and take over control of various oil derricks/refineries in Libya, increasing a decent cashflow for his own desire and for the sake of the GLA, gaining a secondary profit in terms of good will.
The completed novel has been launched on the internet and the Dark Web. GLA supporting websites quickly copies the files and spread them further around. Western critics discovering these documents are taking them the same way as old-school Al-Qaida/ISIS materials.
2031. A misplaced and not well prepared uprising in eastern Turkey slammed Firazabadi’s agents down. The uprising, mostly by Kurds, was intentionally to rise up and gain once more control in these areas. Turkish and Iraqi Ground Forces used well placed artillery strikes and other breakthrough methods to deal with this threat. With this incursion, around 1000 rebellion soldiers and around 3000 civilians lost their lives.
On a different event, a few scientists and weapon engineers were successfully captured and sent to the base of Firuzabadi and put to work. In the next upcoming years this team was ordered to make improvements and suggestion for new weapons for the GLA.
2032. Firuzabadi foresees problems after the easy lost in East of Turkey and orders to evacuate multiple smaller checkpoints as a first round of reorganization. The second part of the reorganization is to decrease capacity of his controlled docks in North Eqypt and using the Suez Channel and the pirating brothers near the Gulf of Aden to hide contraband sea transport.
Deathstrike dies by the hands of an unknown assassin.
<!----> 2033. Setting up a small GLA navy controlled dock in north of Libya, supporting refugee transportation to Europe and the Balkan countries, Firuzabadi easily camouflages his true interests within the east parts of the Mediterrenean Sea, and increases rapidly weapons transportation, knowning that this cannot last forever.
Unknowing, the GLA overlord Al-Ghazi smuggles his Liquidator contactors on European soil with the purpose to create sleeper cells.
2034. With the recent change of political climate in the Federation, (also) Firuzabadi demanded Russian President Voronov dead, organizing a few (far not all) attempts to take him down, without success. The GLA in common starts to fear to lose connections with their arms suppliers.
Starting to work once more on some pro-GLA propaganda, Firuzabadi starts using cheap translations from ‘Mein Kampf’, older religious speeches, and even words from famous speakers like Martin Luther King, but in a different way for the purpose of the GLA.
2035. By the orders of Firuzabadi, and his supervising commanders, the troops under his command starting openly raids and ‘hit-and-run’ tactics within Eqypt, East-Libya, parts of North Sudan and on the sea.
Under the shadows of these events, Firuzabadi decommissions large parts of his base and warehouses and relocate them deeper into Africa and spreading more out, fearing to lose assets to the infidels.
2036. Immediately supporting the Ukranian violent clashes, Firuzabadi tries to postphone the inevitable, but witness how (easy) the Russians retake eastern parts of Ukraine. With a few terrorist style attacks, the few GLA representatives escaped by some of the last greater weapons transportations.
Despite this massive cutback from a decent trade/supply route, Firuzabadi receives a few Scud Launchers from GLA high command which would see action within a few months. Smaller skirmishes on the Mediterenean occurred between GLA allied ships, Balkan countries and other European ships, exposing their presence.
2037. Operation Nemesis. The GLA loses various battles on the Mediterenean Sea. Firuzabadi orders the captured oil derricks/refineries from North/East Libya to stand till the last man. Using this tactic, the last large transports can quickly vanish to deeper Africa, leaving the rebels to their faith in hands of the AEDP/ECA forces.
Firuzabadi fearing an European attack on his head base near Cairo, starts immediate decommission it, save what is of worth, and destroying the buildings.
Partisans spies reveal Chinese interests in North/Eastern African countries, making the GLA make haste.
2038. The Partisans information became truth. The Chinese started a successful brutal campaign against the GLA pirate parties. Now facing major powers from multiple directions, Firuzabadi organizes a selected amount of terrorist attacks in larger cities in Tunis, Somalia, Sudan and Libya.
Firuzabadi ordered by GLA higher command, started to make several reinforced outposts what later will be known as the borders of Terra Nullius.
Within this year, other major world powers starting to claim African territories.
2039. Slowly setting up new areas under GLA control, Firuzabadi manages to set up larger amount of GLA weapons factories, allowing once more after a decent amount of time, GLA own production of armoured vehicles.
After a few years of prototyping and finding enough materials to build with, the GLA Basilisk tank is reborn. Congratulated by high command, Firuzabadi orders to test this vehicle and improve it to face some more modern heavy vehicles of enemy factions.
2040. Terra Nullius came to live mainly because of the successes from Omar Al-Ghazi’s troops. Firuzabadi supplied many of them and coordinate along the borders to the east. By this, his warehouses and weapon factories are open for GLA business, resupplying the terrorist organization to maintain this land under their control.
Meanwhile, once more Firuzabadi is successful in spreading propaganda on the Dark Web. Several new internet websites, who are put by the same men as earlier but continuesly counter hacked by western hackers, are linking the name of the creator from these documents to the good word of which the GLA claims to be. Inspiring thousands of religious people to join the GLA.
2041. While the Sudan event occurs between GLA/China/European/Russian forces, Firuzabadi finds ways to gain financial aid once more straight from his homeland Iran; using agents and puppets to cover up the tracks.
Basilisk MK2 version is completed and tested over half a year. Green light was given and this unit is under limited production, due the amount and variety of resources which it takes.
2042. A new (small) smuggle route was secretly created by the organization of Firuzabadi, connecting Terra Nullius with Iran. Despite the ‘as good as zero’ supplies from Russian Arms Dealers, other dealers gladly stepped in. Rumours were that Chinese Mafia and Pakistani Clan Leaders participate.
2043. Firuzabadi official, as how official things goes within Terra Nullius, declares the War Machine Cell, containing Scorpion MK2 Tanks, Marauder Tanks, and a various of artillery pieces, soon to be expanded with more armoured units. Firuzabadi becomes leader of this GLA Cell.
Kickoff of the GLA Latrun artillery units, to support the GLA’s long borders. Armed with a hotwitzer based cannon, but on a fast vehicle mounted, this unit can catch up Rocket Buggies in joint hit and run attacks
2044. Firuzabadi secretly creates several larger production facilities for Marauder Tanks near the City of Lilongwe, Malawi. Combined with this, GLA ‘scientist and engineers’ are tasked to review the Marauder Tank and prepare upgrades. The location was decided on the possible of decent amount of menpower (slaves or not), location, connection by road, train and sea (indirectly) and a fair opportunity to hide it from the outside world.
Position(s) Held: Read the history.
Faction Branch: War Machine
Base Of Operations: Terra Nullius
Military Clearance: classified
Tactics: Hit-and-run, Stealth operations, ambush, GLA Tank Warfare, Artillery.
Army Description: (mainly) Armoured forces, Tanks, Artillery